Zelf bespeur ik een énorme teleurstelling bij Dennis Åberg omdat het "veel beloofde" nieuwsitem op het Zweedse nieuws werkelijk een flop was. Het OX-team heeft blijkbaar veel en waardevol materiaal aangeleverd bij de redactie van de Zweedse staats-TV (SVT). Maar zoals jullie wellicht zelf hebben gezien werd het een 2 minuten saaie verslaglegging, zonder échte nieuwe feiten.
Ik heb het nieuws gekeken en het is werkelijk een dikke gecensureerde aanfluiting.
Maar er zijn spannende ontwikkelingen vanavond op de Facebook site van het OX-team. Er wordt gekeken om het hele project dus door donaties te laten sponsoren en dus zélf met meer spectaculair nieuws naar buiten te komen.
Er is iets bijzonders daar op die zeebodem en heeft "onnatuurlijke" geometrische vormen en Dennis Åberg heeft zich altijd voorgehad om het geheel kompleet in kaart te brengen en te ondekken wat het wérkelijk is.
Nu met deze Sociale Media als Facebook, lijkt dit project héél veel wereldwijde steun te gaan krijgen. Wellicht zal er weer een mijlpaal in de wereldgeschiedenis worden geslagen, of zal deze zelfs we moeten worden herscherven.....
Als ik het goed begrijp is Peter Lindberg aan het woord én hij is de meest sceptische persoon in het geheel, maar heeft zich door het "object" compleet laten verbazen!
Via een posting op Facebook kan ik wat "snippers" plukken van dat intervieuw:
What else, the ridge/pathway points due north. The "corridors" are only about a meter deep
Peter said they have not found a way to enter the structure, and there are no signs of writing that they have discovered.
The news about the staircase wasn't supposed to get out Peter said. He really didn't want to answer the question but he did confirm it.
He also said he felt in his heart it was either a very rare natural formation or a pre-ice age construction.
The divers didn't explore the hole in the center because they went in a different direction. The hole is also a "perfect" circle, not egg shaped.
He said the volcano like object is there, some distance from the site and has a plume rising out of it, all seen with sonar only. Plume may have been a school of fish but he doubts it.
Next expedition in two weeks, they plan to investigate the volcano and second structure.
He said the second structure was not circular, it is rectangular with sweeping arches. Kevin made a joke about it being a stone age McDonald's.
Radiation readings were in fact, .02, which he says is 20X the normal level but then quickly pointed out that the Baltic is one of the most irradiated seas on the planet so this may not be significant. ( ( Tja na Tjernobyl en alle dode Russische onderzeërs en Duitse atoomproeven natuurlijk).
Peter clearly stated in the interview tonight that it is not egg shaped it is a perfect circle.
The ridge/pathway leads up to the base and is the same height of the base.
Dus.... Stay Tuned, binnen 24 uur dus welicht het hele interview in schrift.
Tevens nieuwe impressie...:
Laast bewerkt: 10 maanden, 4 weken geleden Door Het Dolle Eland.
"...That black material is very brittle and appears charred.
No writing has been found.
The only officials that have been in contact with them was the Swedish military and it was to warn them that underwater mapping of their territorial waters was forbidden. Since it was in open waters, they lost interest and left..."
"...In an interview this morning with radio Stockholm, Dennis said that the walls on top of it are 7 to 8 meters high..."
"... Peter doesn't believe alien, or at least finds it unlikely. Dennis on the other hand said this thing didn't look to him like it was from this world in an interview yesterday. I am certain I read that. Would someone please confirm?..."
Sommige interessante uitspraken wat de gemoederen bezighouden momenteel:
"...Peter does not confirms the staircase.. just that sonar picture looks like something like staircase.... they will look into that...."
"...True, sonar imaged but it looks like a staircase. You also heard them say that was supposed to be kept secret? They clearly believe it is a staircase. But I yield to your point, no diver laid eyes on the stairway..."
"...No Jimmi I did not say that. Any electrical field over the threshold voltage, around 7.3 volts. Even solar flare activity can generate this level of EM field, that's what all the hubbub about solar activity is all about. Water can also carry electrical fields, in fact does so very well. EM radiation, or microwaves, can cause electronic interference..."
Dennis Åsberg good morning. It's been hectic for you lately?
Yes, that is putting it lightly. Unbelievable. It was released more material last night in Rapport (Swedish newsprogram) that´s why I´m a little tired, I've been up very long time.
I'll just clarify. You are one of wreck divers who found this mysterious big circle at the bottom of the Baltic sea, about the middle of international waters. Although this has debated sharply among experts, both Swedish and international, no one has managed to get it, no one knows what it is for sure. Do you know anything more now than you did a few months ago? Do you have become somewhat wiser?
On the contrary. The questions have become so much bigger now than they were before. We were down there. There after we went down again. Two times we have been down with the divers. As we have seen this, we have become more and more astonished. There are angles, 90 degree angles, and it's like rooms and corridors on top of this circle. The last thing we went public with is this hole that we have found at 25-30 cm.
If you explain a little bit more. When you saw this, what exactly does it looks like?
What does it look... it's a 60 meter in diameter large plate at 90 meters deep and is completely round.
Yes. It is. It is not in any way an oval or wavy. It's round. It looks like a mushroom on the ground.
Is this plate even and smooth, or is it choppy?
No, it's not. On top of it is that, as I said, corridors, aisles and angles in height about 7-8 meters high.
What? And how does it look inside them?
We have used this robot, as an owl driving down there, and uses a camera and visual look. It does
not look so good down there, it is 1.5-2 meters visibility. Right away we understand that there is something that is really weird when we went down. They corridors ... no room with a roof but with with walls ... and angles ... it's insane, this does not belong there.
It's just like you say. It's insane and does not belong .. so it's been about 5 million different theories about what it can be. Everything from UFO, Mellenium Falcon ... and it really resembles the Millennium Falcon, to the more natural, what can I say, solutions that seem more credible. But what do you think? What is the closest solution out of all the ones you've heard?
Well... You have to be realistic. Meteorite I've believed for a long time but as I've seen them this 90-degree angles and things down there that makes ... meteorites do not look like this.
But it looks like it is built by humans?
Yes it does. It looks manmade. It also looks as if it's made of some kind of concrete.
Do you chop off a piece that you have raised?
We tried, believe me. But it did not work. So we took instead material around, and it is rock .. ordinary stone. There is magma on this rock, something that is burned, which has had a very very high temperature. We have also taken samples so we already know, something has happened down there, which has burned.
I know it has been discussion of if the world's security services follow this carefully, if there should be a secret ... Soviet weapons from the Cold War or something like that. Is there something you've noticed, that it would be something in it?
No. Both Peter and I have been a little observant of that but .. no, we have not seen anything to suggest it. But of course, you have been wondering a bit, what if someone following us now and document everything and trying to find out everything we do ... so of course we have had our eyes open.
Stranger things kept the security services engaged, so it would not be really weird. At last. Now what? When are you going out again on the next dive?
Once we're done with everything. We're going out there again. We're going down to the object. But now we try to examine the very object and take samples from it.
With more sophisticated equipment?
Correct. Unable to dislodge something with a hammer. We must have better equipment. Doing this
at 90 meters deep with a diver in 15 minutes, one does not so much. Therefore, we have to have a drill of some kind. So we can drill down there. But I'm bad at it, some kind of hydraulic drill perhaps of some kind. Improved equipment we need.
Translated by Stefan Ohlsson (and Google).
Laast bewerkt: 10 maanden, 4 weken geleden Door Het Dolle Eland.
To Dennis, Jimmy Åberg, OX-team and OX-group readers...:
This is man made, I am almost sure about it !
But I am still waiting for the results of the vulcanic hypothesis. Allthough can some kind of vulcanic activity be a part of the complete history of this "finding".
I put the puzzle pieces together from old ancient stories, myths, saga's, research on religous symbols and occult themes.
It is very importaint that we also "listnen" very carefully what our ancestors are "telling" us. Geological results and findings are just the half part of the whole story.
This find is highly significant! and it could change the entire human history. This find can have a very importaint effect on our nearby future and it could even effect the insanity of all ongoing culturar-religious conflicts !
"...ALWAYS BEFORE, THE KNOWLEDGE, THE TECHNIQUES, THE INSTRUCTIONS, HAVE BECOME THE POSSESSIONS OF A CHOSEN FEW: A FEW CHOSE THEMSELVES BY THEIR OWN OPEN-MINDED AND CLEAR-SIGHTED REALIZATION OF ‘THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME’. THEY ENDEAVORED TO PASS ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE IN THE BEST POSSIBLE FORM, AND BY THE MOST ENDURING MEANS AT THEIR COMMAND..."
A curious phenomena that has been experienced by the dive team is one of constant electrical equipment failure when they are in close proximity to the anomaly and could be related to a magnetic disturbance in the area.
“Why isn’t anything working, anything electric out there and the satellite phone as well stopped working when we were above the object and then we got away about 200 meters and it turned on again and when we got back over the object it didn’t work so that’s kind of strange as well.” - Stefan Hogeborn
“The divers said that a “blackish” powder had been attracted to the camera, I did not see it myself though. Another thing is that we could not use the satellite phone when we where laying above the circle, but just some tenth of meters off position the phone worked. I do not know why but it is a fact. Furthermore, the video camera’s lights blow when the diver started them up on the surface when testing them before dive # 2. They decided anyway to bring the video camera with them and try to use their ordinary lights to illuminate for the video. When they descended the video camera started to showing an “error” message on the small monitor”. – Peter Lindberg
“The diver restarted the camera several times and finally it seamed to work. So he filmed their dive but nothing was on the tape when watching it afterwards. The only problem we had with the ROV was that we constantly had to restart the sonar. Finally it did not work and we continued with just the video camera. When we left the circle we went to a wreck and spent like 35 hour of ROV flying on the wreck and the sonar worked all the time. Magnetic disturbances, well you tell me!”
“Someone asked about what temperature we had down there. Well the divers thermometer showed -1 degree Celsius when they were on top of the circle, it should be +4 degree Celsius. The thermometer may have showing a wrong value of course.”
“We looked at our dive computer, the deep sea diver computer, and it said minus one degree that’s pretty cold for a diver it should really be impossible to have that cold water it actually turns into ice at zero degrees but that could be explained by the movement of the water.” – Stefan Hogeborn, Professional Diver
“I can not reveal the truth before I have all the facts. Till then everything is pure speculations, even from my side. I have not thought about if it can be hollowed, I have not even penetrated the surface yet…”
The second anomaly
Some 200 metres away lies the second strange anomaly which is amazingly yet to be explored! The initial sidescan sonar images show something described by the team as shaped like a “gothic church window”. Similar to the main anomaly this object also has an area leading up to it of disturbed seafloor or what could be a ridge. The divers were so amazed by the main anomaly that they simply didn’t have time to dive on the second one. The return trip in two weeks time should present an opportunity for this to finally be explored.
There is the real possibility that the second anomaly may help give clues to the origin and nature of the main object.
Atlantis was located at the coast of the Baltic Sea.
The source for the existence of Atlantis comes primarily from Plato.
Unfortunately, until now, one has hardly considered the fact that Plato had broken off his Atlantis report after he had hardly written one fourth of it. With it he had broken off a debating duel, which should have been integrated into the report.
The place, which Plato has described in his Atlantis report, is located off the coast of the Baltic Sea. Every fact except one agrees exactly with Plato's statements. The one thing that does not agree, is the time in which the Atlantians should have lived.
This story would not be so sensational if they had not really found the ruins of a city from primeval times. After the end of the ice age, the ruins of a city were discovered off the coast of the Baltic Sea. It was nearly unbelievable for the people who found these ruins. They didn't´t know cities of this magnitude existed at that time. The tale of this city spread over the whole of Europe. They considered its builders as giants, Gods or demigods.
In the course of time the Baltic sea ascended slowly. The king's castle, that was in the middle of the town, sank again during a flood. The castle was surrounded by three ditches and two landings and by six high walls. These walls had lifted out the midsection of the city like an island lying before the coast. With a heavy flood, the walls burst and the whole island sank.
Sagas were told all over Europe about the great and powerful city state Atlantis, and how it had become so advanced. Only few people outside of Germania knew where the ruins were located. They looked for them in Egypt, in Assyria, in Greece, in Italy and everywhere there was an advanced culture, but nobody thought that it could have be in the cold north.
The barbarians in the north weren't really interested in the ruins of Atlantis. They were more interested in the old kings from which the gods were said to have descended and their castles. Seafarers from the north reported to the Egyptians that the island of Atlantis had sunk. This was believed to have happened one to two millennia after the first discovery of the Atlantian ruins.
What was the layout of Atlantis? Was the whole island a city or was it a country, or was it only part of a city or country? This point is still controversial among the researchers of Atlantis. The island was the center of the town, it contained the castle of the kings, which stood before the coast of the Baltic-Sea, which sunk into the sea.
Almost everything can be explained and so can this if we look at it in the way that Plato originally wanted us to. Millions of years ago, the coast of the Baltic Sea lay near the equator, therefore there were elephants and wine there, as it is described in the saga.
There was no gigantic state 10 000 years ago and no gigantic continent, that should have sunk in the Atlantic. This is also severely questioned by scientists. However he didn't mean that a small island state like Malta or Sicily or Helgoland sunk either. Such a catastrophe, that occurs from time to time, cannot have been interesting thousands of years ago.
Did men exist with the dinosaurs? More and more scientists consider this as very probable because of many findings.
A town in the north of Germany is a mystery still today. It is the fabulous city of Vineta. This place is the subject of most German sagas.
The king of this gigantic ring-installation is still of great general interest. Tolkien has written a fiction about this theme which became the basis of a famous film. Tolkien must have suspected that all the many northern sagas and also the Atlantis report have a common origin. “THE MASTER OF THE RINGS” was not the master of miraculous rings. He was a sovereign who lived in a big castle which was surrounded by a huge annular fortification.
While labyrinths are found all over the world, by far the greatest concentration of them is on the Scandinavian coast of the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Bothnia. Between Sweden and Finland, there are literally hundreds of stone labyrinths. All the ones that I have seen are based on the classical labyrinth pattern.
There are many examples of the seven circuit type in Scandinavia. One of the most used ones is the Lindbacke Labyrinth on the edge of the small city of Nyköping, which means "new shopping". Sweden is still rising from the pressure of the last ice age. Since the time of the Vikings, quite a bit of new land has literally risen out of the Baltic Sea.
The Lindbacke Labyrinth was built on the edge of the Baltic. Now the entire new shopping town of Nyköping is between the labyrinth and the sea! I visited this particular classical seven circuit labyrinth on several occasions with Dan Mattsson, a Swedish dowser, and his son Manfred. It was quite easy to see where the shore had been when it was built, only 25 feet from the mouth of the labyrinth. Today, Swedes use it all the time – lovers, picnickers, kids on school outings, and many others.