DW: Hello. This is David Wilcock and I’m here with Benjamin Fulford. This is another Divine Cosmos audio blog.
I’m interviewing Benjamin Fulford today, which in my time here in Los Angeles, California would be November 28th, 2011, a Monday – for Ben it’s already a Tuesday.
The reason why we’re doing this interview is Ben has, for a very long time now, been talking about a counter-insurgency against what I lovingly call the Old World Order, which is a mélange of international characters.
[This counter-insurgency] started out as an Asian secret society.
BENJAMIN FULFORD’S BONAFIDES
DW: For those of you who don’t already know, I’d like to establish some of [Fulford’s] bonafides so it doesn’t sound like he’s tooting his own horn here.
Ben was the Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He has a long history of professional, credentialed academic journalism.
As you can find out from many other interviews he’s done, some of which are on my site, he got involved into a world of intrigue when he started to trace where the money was going from the Japanese economy.
He realized the economic stimulus that could be generated for the world was not being used for anything that was positive – and it seemed like a lot of money was disappearing.
That investigative trail led to him getting death threats and getting drawn into an Asian secret society as a counterbalance against the Old World Order guys.
SELLING HIS SOUL
DW: [The Old World Order] also tried to silence him and bribe him by offering him – I forget, Ben, was it an ambassadorship they wanted to offer you, or something like that?
BF: They offered me at one point the job of Finance Minister of Japan.
DW: Finance minister of Japan. Right.
BF: They also, believe it or not, offered me General Electric and General Motors.
DW: Like you would be the CEO, or something?
BF: Yeah, and I guess the chief shareholder.
The problem, of course, is I had to go along with their plan to kill four billion people. It’s the classic “sell your soul to the devil” situation.
DW: Right. They just need to lighten the load and get rid of some surplus. That’s how they like to talk about it.
BF: Well, they want to save the environment and get rid of the “useless eaters”.
FULFORD DIDN’T EMERGE UNTIL HE HAD PROTECTION
DW: So look, man, I’ve been on the Internet since 1996. I’ve had my own public presence since 1998. I watched you ever since you came out.
I noticed right off the bat – I believe you emerged in 2007 – was that correct, something like that?
BF: Yeah, it must have been around that time. I had been researching a lot of stuff before then, but I didn’t feel it was safe to go out in public because I knew they would kill me.
It wasn’t until I got protection that I was able to come out and start saying this stuff.
MORE THAN THIRTY BOOKS AND OVER A MILLION COPIES SOLD
DW: And it is true that within Japan, you are a bestselling author. How many books do you have in print and how many units have you sold?
BF: I don’t know. More than 30 books, and I don’t know, maybe a million in all. I haven’t kept track.
DW: 30 titles is very substantial.
You are fully bilingual. Nobody can challenge that. There are plenty of videos they can watch of you talking fluently in Japanese.
WHY WOULD YOU BE CHOSEN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS?
DW: I have seen endless iterations of every type of hate comment that someone would lob at you.
The most frequent one is they just can’t wrap their head around the story. They think it’s too implausible that these Asian secret societies would contact you.
I see that you are bilingual, and you are a credible financial journalist who then became a best-selling author. You are quite renowned for these, as you’re saying, 30 books you have in Japan.
There’s no other gaijin – that’s the word they use for foreigner – there’s no other gaijin in Japan, no other white guy out there that I’m aware of who is doing what you’ve done.
So who else would they have chosen for something like this – to try to bridge over to the Western world?
FULFORD COULD GET AWAY WITH MORE EDGY JOURNALISM
BF: Sure, look. What you have to realize is that there are a couple of reasons why I fell into this particular niche.
One is that I wrote a lot of stuff that if I had been a Japanese journalist, I would have been killed for.
DW: Oh really?
BF: But because I was a foreigner working for Forbes, I was off-limits.
DW: This is stuff that would have rattled the chains of the government, or stuff that would have insulted the Emperor? What are we talking here?
THE SECRET COLONIAL GOVERNMENT RULING JAPAN
BF: I’m talking in essence about the secret colonial government here.
DW: Right. [DW: Later in the interview, Fulford said Japan had been secretly run by the Rothschilds – since the Meiji Restoration of 1868.]
BF: They’ve been using a network of North Koreans and gangsters and bribed Japanese. They’ve been using bribery and murder to make this country into a colony that is only an independent country on the surface.
DW: Now I want to get back to that, but briefly…
BF: [crosstalk] OK, but let me just tell you how I got involved, in a really short summary.
WROTE BOOKS EXPOSING 9/11, BEGINNING IN 2006
BF: I basically started writing books in Japanese…
DW: And this was what year, approximately?
BF: I guess the ones that caused troubles came out around 2006. I was basically saying the 9/11 stuff that was uncovered by many researchers in the West.
DW: So this was before you ever appeared on Rense or anything in the West?
EXPOSING ‘SARS’ AS A BIO-WEAPON TARGETING ASIANS
BF: And then I had a book out in Japanese that pointed out that SARS was a bio-weapon that was designed to kill non-Caucasian people.
DW: For those who don’t remember, SARS was the bird flu.
BF: I quoted from the documents written by the Neocons, like the Project for a New American Century.
The documents pointed out very clearly that there was a group of Western elitsts that were planning on starting World War III and reducing the world’s population.
HE RECOMMENDED THEY CUT OFF THE MONEY
BF: [I also argued that] Asians could stop this by cutting off their money – because they required Japanese and Chinese money to finance this insane project.
An order came out in the Japanese underworld to have me killed.
DW: That’s understandable, if you start putting your finger in [places it doesn’t belong….]
PROTECTION WAS OFFERED – AND HE LEARNED ABOUT FREEMASONS
BF: The South Korean secret police then told the Chinese – and the Chinese sent a secret society to offer me protection.
That’s how I became involved in a world I never even knew existed until that time.
If you talked to me before that about Freemasons, you would have gotten a nervous giggle and a shrug, and that’s about it.
DW: It’s a funny handshake, and they give money to charity, and so on. Right.
“THE CHINESE” HAD EAVESDROPPED ON BOHEMIAN GROVE
BF: The other thing is the Chinese themselves had eavesdropped on one of the conferences at the Bohemian Grove.
They were fully aware of this plan to start World War III, and they were trying to stop it.
When they realized I was being put on a hit list for trying to warn them of something they already knew about, that’s how I got involved.
WHO DO YOU MEAN BY “THE CHINESE,” EXACTLY?
DW: OK, one thing. As I’m talking to you I’m also responding to the fact that when we’ve published articles in the past, we get two or three hundred written comments on them.
I’m able to read what everybody says and the feedback they have. I’m trying to speak not just for myself, but also for the collective.
One of the stumbling blocks I think we’ve had in other interviews that people don’t get clear on is when you say “the Chinese,” people naturally think of this repressive government.
It’s burning people’s houses down in Tibet. It is restricting YouTube. It is restricting freedom. It won’t let people march on Tianmen Square.
It is basically just this human-rights-crushing monster.
IT IS AN ASIAN SECRET SOCIETY
BF: OK. I guess I made a mistake when I said Chinese.
BF: I should have said Asia. This transcends China. It involves Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Taiwan and Korea.
In fact, it goes right to the group of non-aligned nations – a 77-nation group that included places like Yugoslavia.
It was wrong of me to call it the Chinese. It is an Asian secret society, not a Chinese secret society.
WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CHINA AND THIS SOCIETY?
DW: OK. What would be the relationship between this Asian secret society and the current Communist government of China?
BF: Believe it or not, the old royal families of Asia decided that communism would be the best way to modernize China.
Behind and above the communist government of China and the government of Taiwan, you’ll find an old group of families whose connections go way beyond temporary political structures.
THE DRAGON FAMILY
DW: Now correct me if I’m wrong, but China was named after emperor Qin, who was of the Dragon Family. That was the first dynasty of China, right?
DW: So these people… he’s the one who built the Terra Cotta Soldiers, where he took every soldier and every horse in his army and built a stone sculpture out of them.
There’s all sorts of interesting facts about how this Dragon family showed up. They basically erased all the history from China before then, which is now being rebuilt by certain scholars.
These Asian secret societies appear to be dynastic. They’ve largely been behind the scenes. They’ve amassed large amounts of wealth.
That’s part of what we’re into now. That’s what we’re talking about. Right?
COMPETING SECRET SOCIETIES, EAST AND WEST
BF: You’ve got to remember that there are several different competing groups.
You have essentially a similar thing in Asia as in the West. You have secret societies that are connected to ancient dynastic bloodlines.
In the West that would be the Rothschilds, the British royal families, the Freemasons and the P2 Lodge.
In Asia, it would be the Dragon Families, I would guess. This would be all the various dynastic families and clan groupings based on family ties.
But, in the West you had a different group. It is confusing, because there are several groups that call themselves Illuminati.
SOME GROUPS OPPOSED TO BLOODLINE RULE
There is a group that has contacted me and they’ve proven to me they are connected to various agencies as well as international drug-smuggling rings.
They claim they started the French, American and Russian revolutions, and that they are opposed to bloodline rule.
[DW: I have already stated to Ben that this sounds like a rival faction of the same people trying to reinvent themselves. He said he is not joining them or supporting them – merely listening to what they have to say.]
In the same way, the Asians have a secret society that is also based on meritocracy. They are also opposed to bloodline rule.
The Chinese triads, the Japanese yakuza groups and various other secret groups in Asia have strict rules against nepotism.
The son of a gang boss could never take over his father’s gang.
These are linked to martial arts societies and also chambers of commerce.
There’s no clear line between chambers of commerce and outlaw gangsters being chased by police. It’s a gray zone. Light gray and dark gray, you know?
Both in the West and in the East, you have meritocractic secret societies and bloodline secret societies. OK?
ARE THE ASIAN SECRET SOCIETIES PRACTICING EVIL?
DW: Could you just briefly enunciate for us… A lot of people have PTSD around hearing things like Illuminati.
As soon as you say stuff like that, the paranoia kicks in, and the fear and the anxiety kicks in.
So when you say that these are dynastic bloodline families in Asia – that these are secret societies – are they sacrificing babies? Are they drinking people’s blood? Are they doing satanic rituals?
[DW: This was a question I already knew the answer to, and just wanted him to clarify. He has repeatedly stated the Asian secret societies are vigorously opposed to these occult practices, and want to help create a better world.]
What are we talking about here in terms of: who are these people, what do they think, what’s their philosophy, what do they want?
Do they want to take over the planet? Are they fighting against the Illuminati to control the planet?
What is their agenda?
THEY WANT A FAIRER SYSTEM, NOT DOMINATED BY THE WEST
BF: They think that the control of the future of the planet should no longer be controlled by a small Western elite.
They would rather have it fall under the control of the people of the planet.
There is a group, of course, of chauvinistic people who say China should rule the world – in China.
But, the general consensus in Asia as a whole is it should be equal for all the people in the world – not just for a Chinese or a Khazarian-controlled family business that runs the planet.
What they say publicly, I think, is really what they expect for now – which is a multi-polar world, not one controlled by a single group.
HOW DID YOU GET ALL THIS INFORMATION – AND FROM WHO?
DW: OK. Another question, which I think might help to allay the skeptics. There’s a lot of them, and they’re very nasty.
Could there be the possibility of a single-point failure in what you’re telling us?
Is it possible that all of the stuff that you just told me about these Chinese secret societies is the result of you meeting one or two guys, and them telling you these elaborate stories?
You call the guy on the phone every other day and he gives you new information, and that’s it.
FULFORD MET MANY OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN ASIA
BF: Listen. I was a journalist. I’ve been a journalist here for more than 25 years. I’ve met most of the post-war prime ministers in Japan.
BF: I’ve met finance ministers, the heads of most of the large corporations in Asia. Remember, I was the Asia-Pacific bureau chief for the world’s largest business magazine.
DW: But what does that really mean? How do you get to meet the Prime Minister? Why would they talk to you?
BF: I would go to Taiwan, I would go to China, I would go to Russia, I would go to Vietnam, I would go to Australia and I would meet the heads of large corporations who would want to publicize their companies.
DW: [crosstalk] Were you trying to sell ads?
HIS SOURCES RUN INTO THE HUNDREDS
BF: [crosstalk] What I’m trying to say is that since quitting that job, I’ve literally… my sources run into the hundreds.
I know the bosses of the Triads, the Yakuza gangs. I know the heads of the Japanese military intelligence and the police forces here.
I know the heads of the martial arts societies. I’ve talked to the politburo members in China.
So no, it’s not me talking to one handler or two handlers feeding me disinformation.
However, it’s true that they’ve thrown all sorts of disinformation my way to try to ruin my credibility.
[DW: Fulford is saying that SOME of his many sources have done this, not all of them. He has had to weed out many contacts over time. He has said publicly that if he catches any source lying to him, he breaks off that contact immediately afterwards.]
TRYING TO CONVINCE THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
BF: At the end of the day, what people need to realize is I don’t need to prove this to the public at large. Right now we’re trying to convince the heads of the Pentagon, the CIA, the NSA, the KGB and the Freemasons.
In other words, we’re trying to convince the people who control the military industrial complex, and the politicians, that this is a better plan than what is in place now.
I’m sorry, but a lot of people out there have been so brainwashed by television that all you have to do is change what is on the TV to change their minds.
BF: I have provided tape recordings and photographs and videos and various proofs to assorted police and investigative agencies.
So I don’t really need to prove myself at this point. Although, if there is a legitimate criticism, I am happy to answer it.
WHO IS THE GUY WITH THE RASPY VOICE AND WALKING STICK?
DW: Oh, I understand that. One question that I would like to edify here.
When we see videos of you in Japan, on at least three videos I’m aware of, you’re appearing with a man who seems to have – he is carrying a walking stick and he seems to have kind of a raspy voice.
So who is this guy and what is his connection? Most people don’t speak Japanese and they have no idea what is going on.
BF: His name is Chodoin Daikaku. He controls the world’s martial arts societies. He is the head of the karate associations, the aikido associations.
There’s a couple like the judo and the Chinese martial arts where he’s not the head of them, but he knows the guys who run them.
So he’s a bigwig. He’s not just some flake.
DW: OK. When you say he controls the karate association…
BF: Well, he’s the head of the organizations.
APPROXIMATELY 50 MILLION PEOPLE STUDYING JAPANESE MARTIAL ARTS
DW: OK. So how many schools and how many people are we talking about that he would be working with?
BF: I think there are like 50 million people worldwide studying Japanese martial arts. They have karate schools in Mexico, in Iran, wherever.
BF: We’re talking very big organizations here.
DW: Couldn’t anybody just open a karate school without accreditation? Or are you saying there is an accreditation, and he’s at the head of that accrediting agency?
BF: If they opened a karate school, they probably got a black belt. They did that by going to some teacher affiliated with this organization.
DW: I see. So there is some sort of centralized authority that you have to appeal to if you want to run a karate school.
BF: If you want to get a belt, you have to study at one of these accredited schools. Yeah.
YOU COULD GET RECOGNIZED IF YOU ARE COMPETITIVE
DW: I see. So nobody could just hang out a sign and say “Here’s a karate school and here’s your black belt,” and have you be taken seriously if you wanted to go to a Martial Arts tournament and actually compete?
BF: It’s a meritocracy. If you just put on a black belt and go to these tournaments and beat people’s ass, they [the martial arts societies] will recognize you!
DW: [Laughs] OK.
[DW: What Ben is saying here is that many of these martial arts schools and tournaments worldwide have a central group that organizes them and keeps track of everything. Daikaku is the head of the largest of these groups.]
ALSO CONNECTED TO INSIDER JAPANESE SELF-DEFENSE FORCES
DW: But within Japan maybe in particular, let’s say, this guy that you were referring to, Chodoin Daikaku…
BF: Daikaku. Yeah.
DW: He is sort of like the kingpin of martial arts groups in Japan?
BF: A major kingpin, let’s put it that way. He is also connected to the Japanese self-defense forces.
MOST INSIDERS WANT TO STAY INSIDE
BF: What you need to realize is that most of the guys I talk to don’t want their name or picture out there at all.
DW: Sure! Absolutely.
BF: They refuse to let me name them or put out their photograph. But, I have introduced them to MI6, CIA types – and at that level they do communicate.
WHAT IS A TYPICAL DAY LIKE FOR YOU?
DW: I know it’s hard to pin you down time-wise. Could you paint for the average listener what your day is like?
How many insiders… how many different people do you think you talk to in a given week right now?
BF: It really depends. What happens now is I talk to people who are connected to large organizations.
I have one guy I talk to who I know has strong Pentagon / CIA connections.
There’s another guy I talk to who is definitely Rothschild, MI6 connected, British Royal Family type.
I’ve confirmed independently, through multiple sources, that these people are real.
WHO ELSE DO YOU TALK TO?
BF: Then there’s another guy I talk to who would be connected to the Japanese right-wing groups as well as the Asian secret societies.
Then there’s this Chodoin guy I talk to.
Then less often, for example, I talk to senior people in the Japanese gangs – like the Yamaguchi-gumi or the Inagawa-kai or the Sumiyoshi.
There’s a guy I talk to who is a KGB / Serbian intelligence type, who I talk to quite regularly.
DW: [crosstalk] From Russia or from Serbia?
BF: Originally from Serbia. I shouldn’t say more than that.
DW: Right. I don’t want to betray your sources at all.
BF: For example, I’ve gone out drinking with the wife of the Prime Minister Kan Naoto many times. She lives in my neighborhood.
BF: There’s a lot of people I know.
A VERY INTENSIVE PLAN TO DESTROY FULFORD
BF: There has been, though, and I’ve mentioned this… there’s been a very, very intensive campaign to make me seem like a flake.
BF: They have a book, about as thick as a phone book – a file on me.
First of all, they tried to kill me.
Then when they realized there was protection behind me, and whoever ordered the kill would be killed themselves in retaliation, the next thing was they tried to drive me into bankruptcy – by blacklisting me.
When that didn’t work…
HIS CAREER AS A PRIME-TIME TV PERSONALITY WAS DESTROYED
DW: Hold on. What do you mean by blacklist?
BF: OK. I used to have regular TV shows in Japan.
DW: Oh, you did?
BF: Oh yeah! Big prime-time shows.
DW: Like on NHK, or what network? [DW: NHK is the biggest, most popular TV network in Japan.]
BF: NHK had a 20-minute special on me on prime time. I had various networks.
The point is I was also able to publish stories in places in major Western media. But I got put on a blacklist.
DW: Around what time was that? What year?
BF: I guess that happened around 2005 or 2006. It was 2006, after I left Forbes and I started writing stuff about 9/11. That would be about it.
DID YOU START WRITING ABOUT 9/11 BY PUBLISHING A BOOK ?
DW: So 9/11 was your first major book that you put out?
BF: No, it was magazine articles.
And then I was holding press conferences at a foreign correspondents’ club, explaining why I was writing about 9/11.
THE WESTERN MEDIA WOULDN’T DARE TOUCH “9/11 TRUTH”
BF: I was trying to get publicity in the Western media.
That’s when I realized that either they were scared of losing their jobs, or they were working for some agency and only pretending to be a journalist – and that the media was controlled.
I already knew it was controlled, but I didn’t know how thoroughly it was controlled until I had press conferences about 9/11 – and presented the evidence.
I had the New York Times correspondent telling me that he would be fired if he wrote about this!
NOT JUST “ARABS WITH BOX CUTTERS”
DW: So your opinion about 9/11 is obviously not “Arabs with Box Cutters.”
Could you synopsize what was your conclusion that got you in so much trouble? You’re obviously not supporting the official dogma around 9/11.
BF: I think the short story is that slogan – it was an inside job.
The evidence is overwhelming that it wasn’t done by a small group of Saudi terrorists with box cutters.
THE ALTERNATIVE IS TOO MIND-BOGGLING FOR SOME TO HANDLE
BF: The problem that most people encounter is that if it wasn’t, then the implications are so mind boggling.
It involves such a large number of people and so much planning, and so many insiders, that people go into a state of denial.
Such a conspiracy is too large to be possible. And their minds shut it off.
IT CREATED POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER ON A MASSIVE SCALE
DW: My major in college was psychology. I went through a suicide hotline internship, so I have the equivalent of a Master’s just in education.
[DW: I also worked for eight years as a counselor, and processed a total of 500 paid clients with about a 99-percent satisfaction rating.]
We learned, especially in crisis counseling, about PTSD – post-traumatic stress disorder.
It turns out that when someone has been traumatized heavily, they create a dissociative partition in their mind. It’s like a separate personality that handles the trauma.
They get very defensive.
Typically if you tell them information that brings up that PTSD, that triggers that trauma, they will attack the messenger.
The trauma is so severe that they will do anything not to actually re-experience it.
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE PTSD AROUND THE HISTORICAL EXAMPLES
BF: They have always had to create fake incidents in order to get people fired up to get into war.
You go back to historical cases, and people don’t have that trauma associated with it.
For example, if you look at why the Spanish-American war started, you’ll realize it was a fake incident.
Blowing up the ship the [USS] Maine, and blaming it on Spain. That’s a nice rhyming headline there, eh?
DW: [Laughs] Yeah.
BF: And then 70 years later, they say “we actually blew it up ourselves!”
BF: But if you were, at the time, saying it was done by the Americans, they would have lynched you in the street!
THE TITANIC KILLED 600 TOP OPPONENTS TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE
DW: You mentioned a mind-blowing piece of information about the Titanic.
BF: Remember a book came out a year before about a ship called the Titan that sank on its maiden voyage?
DW: That’s right!
[DW: Previously, Ben has said this book was deliberately released to “hide it out in the open.” This is a key aspect of the occult science these groups are working with. It helps them feel that we have chosen to be enslaved by them.
Technically, the book came out 14 years before the Titanic sank. You can read more at this link:
BF: They got rid of, in one fell swoop, about 600 industrialists who were opposed to the taking over of the Fed.
JP Morgan was saying “Hey, let’s all talk about it as we cross the Atlantic.”
Of course, he missed the ship at the last moment.
They were prevented at gunpoint from boarding the lifeboats.
WOODROW WILSON’S FAMOUS QUOTE: INSPIRED BY THE TITANIC?
[DW: Fulford has also said they deliberately did not put enough lifeboats on the Titanic. The captain knowingly sabotaged the ship.
The “women and children first” principle further insured none of the Fed’s opponents would survive.
This is not merely Fulford’s assertion – other researchers have suggested the same thing.
The Titanic tragedy of April 15, 1912 apparently inspired a terrified Woodrow Wilson to print his infamous quote in a book he released the following year. (See below.)]
WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE PART OF AN APOCALYPTIC PLAN?
[DW: The Federal Reserve began operating on December 23, 1913 – with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act.
This is almost 99 years to the day before the Mayan Calendar end-date of December 21, 2012, which may have been intentional.
The Aldritch Plan may have been intended to create the Federal Reserve in 1912, but it received a fatal blow when Democrats swept the White House and Congress that November:
Had this stunning political defeat not occurred, the Aldritch Bill may have ultimately created the Federal Reserve on the all-important date of December 21, 1912 – exactly 100 years before “the End of the World” in occult circles.
Given the cabal’s fascination with attempting to fabricate an Armageddon, as Fulford is about to discuss – as well as their love of ritual dates – such an idea is not difficult to comprehend.]
WOODROW WILSON’S QUOTE
[DW: In Woodrow Wilson’s 1913 book The New Freedom, Section 1, “The Old Order Changeth,” page 13, he said the following:
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something.
“They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
This is only one of a series of revealing quotes at the above link that show how concerned Wilson was about the Federal Reserve.
This quote may have been triggered by Wilson having insiders tell him the Titanic disaster was used to murder 600 opponents to the Federal Reserve. In the picture below, from when the Federal Reserve debuted, Wilson looks deeply worried at best, if not terrified.]
BF: There’s a lot of stuff that’s gong to come out.
SABBATAI ZANTH – PROPHET OF DO-IT-YOURSELF ARMAGEDDON
BF: The conclusion I’ve reached, and it’s really quite mind-boggling, is [this].
The story goes back to Sabbatai Zanth, a self-described Messiah of the Jews who lived in Turkey about three hundred and some years ago.
He said he was a Messiah. It was the job of the Jews themselves to carry out the prophecies of the Torah. We shouldn’t wait for God to do it.
The sultan of Turkey had him called up and said “If you are really the Messiah, then do some miracles. If not, then convert to Islam – or else we will execute you.”
He couldn’t perform the miracles. So he pretended to convert to Islam.
Instead they worked on subverting the Turkish government from within. That was the “Young Turks”, eventually.
HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE?
DW: Did that become the Ottoman Empire, or is that something different?
BF: That was what undid the Ottoman Empire. Ataturk was one of their members – the founder of modern Turkey.
There’s hundreds of pages of documents to back up what I’m saying. I’m not just talking out of the side of my mouth here.
THE ROTHSCHILDS LIKED THE IDEA OF CREATING ARMAGEDDON
BF: The point is that the Rothschilds liked this idea.
You had this group – about a million-member sect – that believes the prophecies are inevitable. They can’t be stopped. And they’re actively working to carry them out!
This is the really mind-boggling part of it. It’s just too big and too ridiculous for most people to comprehend. But the evidence is overwhelming.
These prophecies call for a huge battle between two great nations – Gog and Magog. Armageddon.
90 percent of humanity would be killed in this battle. The remaining ten percent would be enslaved by the Jews, who would each have 2,800 slaves.
Now remember, I have Jewish ancestors on both sides. This is not mainstream Jewish thinking. This is a particular sect.
DW: Would that be Sabbatean Jews?
BF: Yeah. Sabbateans I call them. I wouldn’t even call them Jews, because their belief system isn’t really Jewish.
THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS WAS INTENDED TO CREATE ARMAGEDDON
BF: You had Israeli newspapers… they tried to set up this war between the Soviet Union and the West, which would have done that.
They almost succeeded in the Cuban Missile Crisis. I happened to be living in Cuba at the time – I was just a baby.
MANY OF THE WORLD’S NATIONS DID NOT AGREE WITH THIS PLAN
BF: What happened then – and this is where we get into hard financial history, international financial treaties, stuff that is very well documented in the archives.
A lot of the nations of the world said this is crazy. They wanted something different.
THE HISTORY BEHIND THE LEGAL ACTIONS NOW UNDERWAY
BF: I’m going to take you back a bit so people can understand what is happening now and what specific legal actions we are taking against this group of fanatics.
DW: Please do. Yeah. I’ve read the entire 111-page document, thoroughly, as if it was a contract I would be signing myself.
When we get to that, I’d be happy to dialogue about it – but yeah, go ahead.
BF: I’ve been shown many, many, many documents related to this. Nothing to do with that lawsuit.
JAPAN INVADED CHINA TO STEAL THEIR GOLD IN THE 1930s
BF: Essentially, in the 1930s the Japanese invaded China.
Their goal was to take the gold – confiscate the Chinese gold.
DW: Was Japan at that time trying to create what they called the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere?
BF: Yes, but Japan was also still linked to the British. It’s complex.
There were conflicting groups with conflicting goals. It’s not a monolithic story. There are different stories with different actors.
THE ROTHSCHILDS BUILT UP JAPAN… TO STEAL CHINA’S GOLD
DW: Japan was medieval up until 1877 when Captain Morgan, right, stormed the Japanese shore with gunboats and basically said “Westernize or die.”
[DW: My bad! I was hurriedly trying to remember something I wrote in a college paper in 1994. It was Commodore Matthew Perry, and the real year was 1868. Not Captain Morgan, getting them all drunk on his Spiced Rum! LOL]
DW: Japan then went into an extremely rapid, almost unprecedented industrial growth after that.
BF: It wasn’t a Captain Morgan [but you are right.] The Rothschilds built up Japan as a military colony to use to dominate China.
DW: Beginning in the 1800s?
BF: Going right back.
DW: So as soon as they Westernized. Right. Okay.
THE MEIJI RESTORATION: ILLUMINATI?
DW: So the Meiji families – that was the Meiji Restoration where that all started. The Meijis were apparently kids, right? It was a youth rebellion.
Are you saying that the Rothschilds financed these youths and put them in power?
BF: They [the Rothschilds] took over the southern clans of Satsuma and Choshu, and then gave them modern weapons and used them to conquer Japan.
[DW: Interestingly, the word “Meiji” means “Enlightened Rule”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_restoration. “Meiji” could therefore be seen as a Japanese derivation of the word “Illuminati.”]
DW: [crosstalk] So Japan was feudal until then.
BF: [crosstalk] Anyway, that’s an interesting thing, but let’s get to what’s happening today.
DW: OK, great.
JAPANESE MILITARY WAS SECRETLY PLAYING BOTH SIDES AGAINST CHINA
BF: We need to go back to the 1930s. The point was that Japan was invading China. They had these bandits run by a guy called Kodama Yoshiyo.
They go into a town. They would seize the gold and loot the treasure.
Then the Japanese army would show up and say, “We hear you’ve got bandit problems. We will protect you!”
By that time the gold was all being shipped off to Tokyo, and then later to the Philippines.
DW: Very clever.
THE KUOMINTANG GOVERNMENT GAVE GOLD TO THE US IN 1938… FOR “SAFE KEEPING”
BF: The Kuomintang government didn’t want their gold to be taken by the Japanese.
In 1938, seven US warships filled with Chinese gold and silver were sent back to the United States.
A lot of gold was sent out before, too, going back to the 1920s.
THE US GAVE THEM 60-YEAR GOLD BONDS
The Chinese were given 60-year bonds. Let’s just stick to the 1938 ones.
They were given 60-year bonds in exchange for the gold they handed over to the Federal Reserve Board.
DW: I just want to thread this. Are you saying that the Rothschilds, to some degree, were still behind these criminal actions of stealing the gold?
BF: The American families behind the US Federal Reserve Board were trying to grab gold. The Rothschilds were trying to grab gold.
It was a gold grab, with different people trying to grab gold for themselves and for their groups.
DW: So Japan in some sense was acting as a proxy for [the Federal Reserve families in America and Britain.]
DW: Okay. That’s an important point.
BF: A lot of gold was shipped to the United States. The Chinese were given lots of US government bonds, with astronomical denominations, in exchange for that gold.
THE KUOMINTANG WERE NOT CHINESE COMMUNISTS
DW: You mentioned that Kuomintang was the government at that time.
BF: That would be the nationalist Chinese government that was in power at that time. Chiang Kai-Shek.
DW: Are these the Communists, or is that something else?
BF: No. They weren’t communists. They were the people who then fled to Taiwan after the Communists took over.
IS THIS HOW TAIWAN ENDED UP WITH SO MUCH ECONOMIC POWER?
DW: Well, here’s Taiwan – this little tiny country which has so much economic power.
That’s why China seems to be always trying to invade them and get it back.
Are you saying that that’s when this all started?
TREASURE HIDDEN BEHIND THE NATIONAL TAIWAN MUSEUM
BF: The Taiwanese took a lot of the treasure with them when they fled China.
They have a museum in Taiwan which is very famous.
[DW: The National Taiwan Museum was founded on October 24, 1908: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Taiwan_Museum.]
There are some hills behind the museum.
Every year they change the display in the museum. They’ve been doing that for 50 years.
They haven’t even begun to make a dent in displaying all the treasures they have hidden in those hills.
DW: My goodness. You’re saying these are subterranean vaults inside the hills?
BF: This is the ancient imperial treasure of China.
BF: And that’s just one of the many treasure hordes that are out there.
[DW: As we will explore in Part Two, one of my top insiders personally toured this vast underground complex -- and claimed it was hand-dug by a massive number of laborers. It is apparently 50 miles by 40 miles in size and seven levels deep.
One half of the complex is filled with gold -- and the other half with all the imperial treasures of China.]
WHERE DID ALL THIS TREASURE COME FROM?
DW: Was this from the Mongolians? Where did all this treasure come from in the first place?
Did they conquer people and get it that way, or what?
BF: OK. For example, if you look at the old archives and history books, you will see that the Romans were buying silk and ceramics and spices from the Chinese… and paying for it in gold.
DW: Oh my God.
BF: And so were the Spaniards. They took all the gold they stole from the Aztecs and the Incas – and they spent it on Asian stuff!
DW: Oh my God!
85 PERCENT OF THE WORLD’S GOLD ENDED UP IN ASIA
BF: About 85 percent of the world’s gold ended up in Asia over the past [few] thousands of years.
DW: I’m really getting it now. This is amazing! Go ahead.
BF: Part of what World War II was about was a grab for this gold.
DO THEY HAVE MILITARY GUARD AROUND THE TAIWAN MUSEUM?
DW: Do they have military fortification around these hills in Taiwan?
Obviously they would have to guard that very extensively, if you are saying there are that many assets there.
BF: Sure. Their big plan for when China invades is to scoot out the back side with all their gold! [Laughs]
BF: [Laughs] Getting back to the thread…
DW: So the Kuomintang fled China to Taiwan.
THE WESTERN OLIGARCHS WANTED TO CONTROL THE WORLD’S GOLD
BF: What happened was the Western powers – the Western oligarchs, let’s call them – planned to take all the gold out of private hands in the world.
DW: What timeframe are we in now? 1938?
BF: This is in the 1930s. Remember, in 1934, Roosevelt banned the private ownership of gold.
DW: Right. Allegedly due to the Great Depression and the need to [save the economy by pooling everyone’s gold assets into the Federal Reserve.]
BF: Right. The Jews didn’t want to give up their gold. That was one of the reasons why they were rounded up and sent to concentration camps.
The Asians didn’t want to give up their gold. That’s why they sent the Japanese army to come in and take it.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE TOOK GOLD OUT OF THE SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES
DW: With the Federal Reserve, the basic idea was that Roosevelt said, “Everybody [has to give up their gold.]”
Some people may still not know this if they’re that ignorant. The Federal Reserve confiscated everybody’s gold.
Even if you had it in a safe deposit box in a bank, they looted your safe deposit box and they took your gold away. Correct?
BF: Yeah. They’re doing that now, too.
BF: If you have gold in a safety deposit box and they haven’t taken it yet, get it out! ASAP!
BF: Anyway, let’s go back to the history.
MOST OF THE WORLD’S GOLD WAS TAKEN OFF-MARKET BY 1944
BF: In 1944, they had the Bretton Woods agreement. At this agreement, the gold-backed international financial system was set up.
Most of the gold that was not being controlled by the Western powers was removed from the market.
DW: How do you mean “removed from the market?”
BF: It was blacklisted, or hidden in caves, or buried in sunken ships at the bottom of the ocean.
DW: Wow. So you’re saying that this equity did not count towards whatever currencies were created worldwide.
BF: No. It was taken off-market. This is a question of control.
THE THAI ROYAL FAMILY’S GOLD AND THE PERSIAN GOLD WAS BLACKLISTED
BF: So, for example, the Thai royal family had lots and lots of gold. They are not allowed to cash that – even to this day.
The same with the Persian gold, which was shipped to Thailand when the Shah of Iran fell.
But again, let’s try to get to the thread. Let’s stick to the plot here. We’ll go back to this stuff later.
BRETTON WOODS WAS A 50-YEAR MANDATE FOR GLOBAL CONTROL
BF: So in 1944, Britain, France and the United States were given a fifty-year control over the global financial system. A fifty-year mandate.
They were supposed to develop and modernize the planet.
However, Roosevelt was poisoned – killed. He didn’t just die.
There was a fascist coup.
The military-industrial complex guys, instead of developing the planet, they wanted this cold war between the Soviet Union and the West.
This was part of this Gog / Magog plan.
BY 1955, 77 NATIONS OPPOSED THE BRETTON WOODS PLAN
BF: In 1955, the non-aligned nations – that’s a 77-nation group, including China, Indonesia, Yugoslavia, India – said this is crazy. We don’t want to be part of this Cold War.
They had the historical rights to most of the Asian treasure.
DW: Were most of the Asian countries represented in the non-aligned nations?
BF: Oh yeah! Pretty well all of them.
DW: How about South America?
BF: Yeah. A lot of the countries are there. Brazil was a part of the non-aligned nations.
DW: How about Africa?
BF: Africa was still a proxy colony.
THE NON-ALIGNED NATIONS WANTED TO MODERNIZE ASIA AND AFRICA
BF: The point is that 77 nations – I don’t have the list in front of me now, but it included most of the people on the planet.
Just not the Soviet Union and North America – the European peoples, basically.
They [the non-aligned nations] said they wanted to finance a Marshall Plan for Asia and Africa – to modernize these regions.
DW: This is the non-aligned nations that wanted this.
BF: Yes. They pooled their treasure to finance this.
THEY CREATED THE “HILTON GREEN MEMORIAL” TREATY IN 1963
BF: There’s an international treaty that people who dug me can look up. It’s called the Hilton Green Memorial.
DW: Right. I’ve seen you talk about that.
THE ONLY ONLINE VERSION OF THIS DOCUMENT IS AN OBVIOUS FRAUD
[DW: Fulford's own insiders have now shown me some of the real documents. A painfully fraudulent version of it was created and “leaked” online. One Indonesian blogger wrote about this agreement here:
It is inevitable that fraudulent documents will be created in a case like this in such a sensitive issue. They lure in the unwary “believers” while convincing the skeptics that it’s nonsense.]
PRESIDENT SUKARNO HAD A STRONG BLOODLINE CONNECTION
BF: [The Hilton Green Memorial] was the treaty where they wanted to finance a Marshall Plan for developing Asia and Africa and the rest of the world.
DW: And they had as their asset base these black-listed gold funds that were in Thailand?
BF: Yes. And the signatory to all this money was President Sukarno of Indonesia, who happened to be related to most of the royal families – at least in Asia.
DW: Oh! So that’s why Indonesia, then. It’s because he had a blood connection to these folks.
BF: Yes. They designated him as a signatory.
BENJAMIN FREEDMAN BLEW THE WHISTLE ON ARMAGEDDON PLANS
BF: When the Cuban Missile Crisis came, and the world nearly went to all-out nuclear war, a guy named Benjamin Freedman came out.
He basically admitted these insane Gog-Magog plans [were real].
[DW: The key Benjamin Freedman speech was at the Willard Hotel in Washington DC, 1961. The Cuban Missile Crisis did not actually happen until 1962, but the tensions were already very high by 1961.
You can download MP3s of the audio of this speech at http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Ben_Freedman.html.
The full transcript is available at http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm.]
KENNEDY GOT THE MESSAGE
BF: Kennedy and a lot of people in the US said “All right, this is crazy. We don’t any more of this secret society craziness.”
He agreed to work with the non-aligned nations to end the Cold War, and to finance the development of Africa and Asia.
To keep the military industrial people happy, he was going to send a man to the moon – and do that kind of stuff.
DW: Did Benjamin Freedman also blow the whistle on what was going on behind the Cuban Missile Crisis? Is that why you mentioned that?
BF: He said they’re trying to create this war so they can take over the planet. There is plenty of evidence for this.
KENNEDY GOT INDONESIAN GOLD AND ISSUED U.S. TREASURY NOTES
BF: Kennedy got gold from Indonesia.
He put out Kennedy bonds and notes – dollar bills that were controlled by the US Department of Treasury, not the Federal Reserve Board.
DW: That was Executive Order 11110, right?
BF: Yeah, something like that.
IT’S A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX THAN WE THOUGHT
[DW: The story of Executive Order 11110 is a little more complex than I thought – once I actually did more research.
Kennedy signed this bill just days before he died. It stopped the US Treasury from selling its silver to private buyers, and gave the President the right to issue silver-backed currency – without the permission of the Federal Reserve System.
The Federal Reserve may well have been deliberately buying up all the Treasury silver so they could ultimately print as much money as they wanted – without having to back it up with any solid assets.
The Wikipedia page on Executive Order 11110 has a deviously interesting spin on the story, where it tries to argue that this plan actually expanded the powers of the Federal Reserve – since silver coins were replaced with dollar bills:
However, by stopping the bleeding of this precious metal out of the Treasury, Kennedy’s act actually protected silver. 11110 also gave the President the direct ability to issue certificates – dollars – that were backed by silver as collateral.
The US Treasury Secretary was stripped of the power to issue silver notes. Kennedy probably did this because the Treasury Secretary was being controlled by the Federal Reserve.
Kennedy probably felt that silver-backed dollars would be a stopgap against inflation and the creation of “bubble money” by the Federal Reserve.
His assassination, just days later, did not appear to be a coincidence.
If Fulford’s sources are right, Executive Order 11110 was only the first visible phase of Kennedy’s plan to defeat the Federal Reserve and ultimately use Asian gold as collateral for a new financial system.]
THE CABAL KILLED KENNEDY AND DROVE SUKARNO FROM POWER
BF: [Kennedy] was killed.
Then Sukarno was driven from power.
DW: By whom, are you saying? Who drove Sukarno from power?
BF: By the West. By the military-industrial complex. By the Cabal, as I call them.
The people who own the Federal Reserve Board. These Sabbatean sectists.
THE ASIAN SOCIETIES DIDN’T HAVE THE MILITARY POWER TO FIGHT BACK
DW: Couldn’t the Asian societies designate a new signatory that would bring these blacklisted funds online and create a new currency that would compete with the dollar?
BF: Well, they didn’t have the military power.
BF: What they did is they went underground. They didn’t sign over anything.
SUKARNO’S NEPHEW SIGNED OVER THE RIGHTS… TO MAKE THIS CURRENT LAWSUIT A REALITY
BF: We have Sukarno’s nephew. [He] has signed over the rights to us now.
We’ll get back to that.
THE CABAL FORGED THE RIGHTS TO ISSUE CURRENCY AGAINST THE ASIAN GOLD IN 1968
BF: What happened was that in 1968, they set up a fake heir. A fake signatory.
DW: “They” is the Asian societies?
BF: No no. This would be Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers and all these people. The Bushes. The people behind the murder of Kennedy. The members of this Sabbatean cabal.
DW: They set up a fake heir [who would allegedly gain the rights] to what?
BF: They forged the rights to use that money as a basis for issuing currency. For creating dollars.
They didn’t have the historical rights to 85 percent of the world’s gold that was owned by the Asians – but they faked the rights.
They forged documents to claim they had the rights.
STOLEN ASIAN GOLD WAS LAUNDERED TO FINANCE “BLACK OPS”
DW: So they wanted to repatriate this gold they had taken out of the market before Bretton Woods was convened.
BF: Some of it was laundered by BCCI, Chase Manhattan Bank, Black Eagle Trust and a few other of these groups.
It was this gold that was illegally laundered from these Asian stashes that financed the black ops and the various secret doings.
THE LAUNDERED GOLD WAS ORIGINALLY STOLEN IN THE 1930s
DW: So this gets back to what you were saying in the 1930s, where the Japanese troops were confiscating gold from the Kuomintang.
BF: Right. That was taken either to the Philippines or to Japan. At first to Japan, and then when it got too iffy, they transported it over to the Philippines.
THE GOLD WAS HIDDEN IN ABOUT 125 KNOWN SITES
DW: Now that wasn’t kept in any type of Federal Reserve Bank for those countries. That was kept in some kind of private storage that was totally offline.
BF: It was hidden. There are about 125 known sites where it was hidden.
[DW: David Guyatt, a 28-year veteran investment banker within the Cabal-controlled City of London, gave incredible supporting evidence, including documents, for everything Fulford is saying here:
In many ways, Guyatt goes into vastly more detail about the story behind this hidden gold than Fulford has done here.
In his online book “The Secret Gold Treaty,” Guyatt’s data suggests there were 172 sites where the plundered gold was stolen:
Fulford's own insiders have since told me there are even more than 172 sites involved.]
AT LEAST TEN OLYMPIC-SIZED POOLS’ WORTH OF “OFF-MARKET” ASIAN GOLD
DW: How much tonnage are we talking about here? How much gold was it?
BF: What I’ve been told is [this].
The story we’ve all been told about how all the gold ever mined in history could fit into one or two Olympic swimming pools… is a total lie.
There’s at least nine times or ten times more off-market gold than there is officially tradable gold.
DW: My God!
BF: Some of it, like I say, was laundered by the CIA types to finance various things.
ASIANS IN THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE CONTACTED THE CIA
BF: Now again, I want to take a little side trip here. One of these Asian secret society groups I contacted worked in the Golden Triangle during the Vietnam War.
DW: Where is that?
BF: That’s the area between China and Vietnam where they were producing all the heroin in those years.
DW: Oh goodness.
BF: And they were selling heroin to the CIA. And the CIA was selling the heroin to finance their black ops.
DW: So they had quite a markup off of the original price that they were paying.
BF: It was a big business that was out of the control of governments.
What happened was the Asians contacted their old CIA contacts. They said, “What the hell are you guys doing? Why are you spreading diseases and trying to start World War III?”
THEY DIDN’T LIKE BEING USED
BF: So a lot of these CIA bad guys came out and started helping us. It was kind of ironic, but it’s still welcome.
DW: Maybe they’re trying to avoid the hangman’s noose, right? [Laughs]
BF: They realized they were being fooled by this fake anti-communism. They didn’t like being fooled and used.
DW: I did speak to one guy who worked in the CIA and actually worked with one of the recent American presidents in cocaine smuggling.
He explained to me, in quite some detail, the rationale behind why they felt it was necessary to try to control the flow of cocaine.
They have all these rationalizations. “We don’t want people to die from bad cocaine.” “If we can control it, then we know exactly where it’s going.”
BF: “Plus we get these Swiss bank accounts, with all this money.” You know?
DW: Right! Exactly.
BF: …Which helps lubricate your conscience a little bit… but still.
THE 50-YEAR BRETTON WOODS MANDATE EXPIRED IN 1994
BF: Anyway, let’s get back to the main flow.
In 1994, the Bretton Woods mandate expired.
DW: Right. You said this was a 60-year commission that started in 1944.
BF: A 50-year commission. Before that, they stole the money from the foreign holdings, the dollar holdings of the Soviet Union.
DW: I’m sorry, I want to ask you one dumb question, though. You’re saying 1944, but World War II didn’t end until 1945.
BF: The Bretton Woods conference was in 1944. They already knew what was going to be the result [from World War II]. That’s open history. Bretton Woods is an open secret.
DW: So you said that the mandate expired in 1944 after a 50-year term.
BF: Yes. It wasn’t renewed.
IN 1994, ABOUT 200 COUNTRIES SAID THE PROMISES WERE NOT KEPT
BF: They said, “Hey, France, United States and Britain. You didn’t modernize the world. You didn’t keep your promises.”
DW: Who is “they” in this case?
BF: It would be all the other countries. Remember, you have [about] 200 countries that have sovereign rights still.
DW: So they would have to ratify the agreement to get it to renew. They would have to sign off on it.
BF: Right. So there has been no real agreement at the top of the global financial system since then.
DW: So the only reason why it hasn’t changed any faster is they don’t have the military muscle to do anything about this.
BF: That’s part of it.
CLINTON AUTHORIZED 100-TO-1 FINANCIAL GAMBLING PRACTICES
BF: President Clinton, he started… these guys were thinking, “The hell with it. We’re just going to start World War III and get ourselves out of this mess by killing everybody.”
Clinton started off by allowing 100 times leverage. Gambling 100 times. So with one dollar, you could buy 100 dollars’ worth of tickets.
If it goes from 100 dollars to 200 dollars, then your one dollar is multiplied by a hundredfold.
They turned the financial system into extreme gambling.
[DW: They obviously knew this could have apocalyptic effects, under certain circumstances, but that was the whole point… as Fulford said.]
DW: Were they using these confiscated gold accounts from the Kuomintang to back that up?
BF: Yeah. They didn’t have any legal backing anymore, but they were going ahead with it anyway.
THE KUOMINTANG SUED THE FED IN 1998 FOR THE RETURN OF THEIR GOLD
BF: Now what happened was in 1998, the Chinese sued the Federal Reserve Board. They said “Hey. You’ve got to give us back our gold.
“We have these contracts. We gave you the gold. The sixty years is up. Give us back the gold!”
DW: Why would they have waited four years? Why 1998?
SEVEN SHIPLOADS OF CHINESE GOLD WERE SENT TO THE US IN 1938
BF: 1938 was when the seven shiploads of gold was sent to the United States from China.
BF: There were many shipments, but in 1938, seven battleships evacuated Chinese gold from China to the United States to avoid it being taken by the Japanese.
They gave the Chinese all these Federal Reserve Board bonds, promising to give the gold back in 60 years.
DW: Is there any recorded history of that?
BF: Oh yeah! The Chinese have elaborate documentation, which is why this whole lawsuit is taking place.
DOCUMENTS WILL BE PUBLIC DOMAIN ONCE THE LAWSUIT COMES OUT
DW: Is any of that documentation public domain, though? …Yet.
BF: It’s all going to be there in that lawsuit, so it’s public domain once it goes into the lawsuit.
I’ve seen lots of pictures. I don’t know, I’m not an expert in arcane bonds, but…
DW: Right, but as a financial journalist you have certainly had contacts with economists.
Would the average Western economist have known about these shipments in 1938?
BF: Yeah, that would have been headline news. I’m sure if you go back to a newspaper archive, you would find stories about it.
DW: Terrific. OK, great.
BF: This is something you can find. Just go to an archive. I’m sure you’ll find stories about Chinese gold being evacuated.
[DW: More research is needed to prove this online – however, the following link makes it clear that the Japanese invasion did come to a ferocious head in 1937-38:
The word is that the Pentagon, the agencies and the militias are on the brink of taking violent action against President Obama and the Senators who claimed the right to kill and/or indefinitely imprison Americans without trial.
[DW: "Violent action" may sound a bit too strong, as all he's talking about here is arrests at gunpoint -- probably without shots ever having to be fired.]
The criminal cabal in Washington D.C. and Wall Street may be able to pretend they are setting up a fascist/totalitarian dictatorship in the US for a while longer, but no serious armed group is going to support them.
The same is true in Europe, where Freemason P2 lodgers and Bilderbergers will make a move towards fascist control this week, and will seem to be on the offensive -- but will ultimately fail.
The simple fact of the matter is that these fascists simply do not have any reality to back up the numbers they are putting into their financial computers to bribe people and hire bully boys.
They are mathematically doomed.
The awareness in the thinking part of the population of Western countries has reached a critical mass. The group that is sitting brainwashed in front of their TVs is irrelevant, because the contents of their TV mind-programming will change once police and the military remove the criminals now occupying the corporate media.
Anyone who still believes there is an ounce of truth or decency in the large corporate media establishments has to ask themselves why these organizations do not write 911 truth or about the murder of 2 million Iraqis or about the vast bribes most top Washington D.C. corporate government officials have received.
They must ask why people are being railroaded into an agenda of war against Iran as a precursor to World War 3.
More than anything else, they need to ask themselves why the so-called governments of the West do not make any serious future plans for the planet other than fomenting war.
In signs of imminent revolution, the Senators who voted to kill and imprison Americans without trial are being confronted in their offices by angry constituents. The military has told Obama to buzz off, which is exactly what he did by running off to Hawaii....
DECEMBER 12TH -- EVEN MORE INFORMATION
Earlier today as I write this piece, Fulford just posted his next update into this fascinating, ever-changing story. Here is a small excerpt from his paid blog:
Cabal struggles desperately to create fascist world government as multiple criminal investigations zero in on them
The fascist cabal known as the Bilderbergers, CFR, committee of 300 etc., is desperately and without hope trying to start WW3 and install a fascist world government in an attempt to pre-empt criminal investigations closing in on them from all sides.
Their efforts will fail because the Pentagon and the agencies in the US (with the exception of homeland Gestapo) are preparing to remove them from power, according to CIA and other sources.
For example, multiple investigations are closing in on alleged President Obama, including one for illegally declaring war on Libya. A count among US representatives show the votes necessary to impeach him are there, US law enforcement officials say.
In addition, evidence of bribery and other forms of illegally tampering with government is being compiled against George Soros, among others. There is also a lot going on under and on the surface in Europe, Japan and the Middle East....
In the US, as mentioned last week, the Obama regime has asserted the right to murder and imprison Americans without due process, meaning he has declared the US to be a fascist dictatorship. Again, it looks on the surface like the plans for a world fascist government are proceeding smoothly.
Fortunately for the rest of the human race, the fascist power grab is really just a sign of desperation....
The problem is that almost the entire leadership structure in Washington D.C. is corrupt and compromised, but people in the Pentagon and the agencies are so used to taking orders that they do not know what to do when their leaders become dysfunctional.
For example, there are enough votes in the US Congress and Senate now to impeach Obama, but the problem is nobody can agree on a replacement.
The various corruption investigations against the Obama regime can remove him [and the greater architecture of corruption behind the scenes] from power, but nobody knows what to do next.
The only answer is for the military to set up a temporary government headed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff until the garbage can be removed from Washington D.C. and Wall Street. The military rightly claim that armies are not good at governing. However, they are good at cleaning up a mess -- and restoring constitutional order.
The US military also worry about being able to meet the payroll, but the backers of the new financial system have already promised generous financing to ensure a restoration of US economic might -- and a gradual transition of the military industrial complex into something that can be self-supporting and good for the planet.
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If you're laughing right now, it's only because you haven't had this happen to you yet. Or, more likely, the 'confirmations' have happened to you, but you simply blow it off.
We all grow up in an educational system that demands we be "right", and punishes us with bad grades and "failure" if we are "wrong." For this same reason, we all have strong conditioning to avoid shame.
Now we have the science to prove that this is not ridiculous nonsense. The case stands perfectly well on its own without the addition of the Fulford / Dragon Family / Keenan material -- but I see all of this as part of one vast, interconnected tapestry.
So many people are living in fear and terror of the future. We now have the science to prove that things are getting better, and in fact they must get better -- it's written into the design of the Universe, and is a fundamental aspect of what we're now going through.
I believe we are being intelligently guided through a planetary awakening at this time -- and as we head into 2012, it seems that the public downfall of the Old World Order will be a key part of that process.
Wilcock, Death Threat, Dog and Pony Show, Lions, Tigers, and Bears, Oh no . . .
December 17, 2011 at 7:00 pm (News, Rants)
This post is one of the most asked for writings we have ever done. I don’t know why. I really don’t. As the world turns, so are the days of our lives . . .
I will try to be brief, however, something tells me this is going to turn into a very long-winded (reading) affair.
David Wilcock, you know we have several mutual friends. it is on behalf of one of them, who you really need to be thankful for, that I will be using the writing style that I am now. Keep that in mind as you read this.
But before we launch into the whole Wilcock/death threat/dog and pony show, please allow me to let you know the wheres, the hows, and the whys of where come from as I write this so you, the reader, will have a better understanding of why I say some of the things that I do.
I’m not going to sit here and for the next 10,000 lines and rehash the whole MK ULTRA/taken as a child/tortured etc. No. If you don’t know by now who I am, use Google or go to our site. What I want to deal with is the here, the now, and what’s to come.
Myself and others, not as many as there once was, but many, are what is known as “Greywalkers”. We fight to try to keep the balance between the dark and the light. More in just a minute. You see, when I was very young, and in case some of you don’t know, I’m a half-blood Cherokee, I was given the name Greyfeather by my Cherokee grandfather. When I asked him to tell me what was the meaning of that name, he said “You’re neither good nor bad, you just are. You’ll figure it out when the time comes.” Well the time came, and it only took me about 25 years or so, but after spending time on a reservation in Nevada years ago, I finally was given all of this information.
There are many of us. Our job as I said, is to try and hold the balance between, well … what most people today commonly know as White Hats and Black Hats. Here’s where things get sticky: They both want the same thing. Whether you believe that or not right now is of no relevance. It’s just a fact. It’s just the way it is. They both want the same thing — dominance, control, EVERYTHING.
We keep the balance up until the day of the final battle that some of us know as the Ragnarok. I ain’t going into that in this post, sorry.
Now you know who I am and what I do right now. David Wilcock — As I said, going by the words of a mutual friend of ours, I am going on the very loose assumption that you were not part of this dog and pony show that was your death threat and subsequent radio shows.
Make no mistake: A dog and pony show is what it was, and you were the dog, jumping up and down on the back of the pony. Harsh words? damn straight. Deal with it. David Wilcock, if you want to play with the big dogs, learn to play or go back on the porch with the rest of the puppies.
I’m going to say this as straight up as I can: The people who are really in charge, on both sides, don’t play this game. They do this: problem, solution, action, done. Period. You would get no phone calls, you would get no warning. That’s how the big dogs play. I know, I’ve been on the receiving end of both sides. David, I have been shot, stabbed, strung up and used for a punching bag. I could sit here for the next 10,000 lines and give you things that have been done to me with no warning, no phone call, merely problem and reaction. It’s how things really work.
When you went on the radio with Kerry Cassidy, in my view, you made a total ass of yourself. You cried like a wet, hungry, dirty, baby. Well, David, take a shower, change your diaper, pull your pants on and get ready to move on, if you want to play with the big dogs.
David, most of the things that you teach your fan base. and yes, that is what they/you are — a fan base — Most of what you teach them is crap and you know it. Ascension? Give me a break. How many times have you changed the dates on world ascension? Did you or any of your fan base know of anyone who *has* ascended? You’re not here to Ascend, David. You’re here to learn and fight. I suggest you and your fan base learn those two terms.
Disclosure. Who cares? It’s nothing but a distraction. My gods, David, we all know about the aliens, UFOs, life on other planets, etc. Been there, done that.
Now, this whole gold bullion/bearer bonds/lawsuit jackwagon-barrel of chicken guts that is supposedly the reason you received the phone call from someone who received a phone call from someone else who received a phone call that you were threatened. David, it’s bullshit. Yeah, it has been out there for a long time. Now let me ask you, the readers, your fan base, hell, everybody in the world, one simple question: Does anyone really, really think a lawsuit is going to change anything?
It’s nothing more than *another* distraction. I mean, really. You’re going to legally sue the people who own everything? Who own the courts, and who, according to the United Nations charter and most governments of the world, own *you* physically?
Are you people serious? David, please don’t take this the wrong way, but you need someone to tell you straight up — you, David, to the people who we fight every day, that we deal with every day, the evil people, the lightworker people that are really in charge don’t seem to think you’re really important in anything.
You are what is commonly known as a “funnel”, a mouthpiece, and I’m not just talking about you, David Wilcock. there are literally hundreds of other funnels/mouthpieces out there. There are the Jonses, the O’Reillys, the Becks, etc. — they’re a dime a dozen to these people. They serve a purpose and nothing more, to whichever side decides to use them.
Like I said many words ago — harsh. damn straight it’s harsh. These are harsh times, and just about to get even harsher. I’m only going to say this one time to you, David Wilcock: You, along with your fan base, have a chance to actually do something good. Here’s my strong suggestion to you: Take to the airwaves, and apologize for your behavior, i.e. crying like a wet kitten, because, David, I have heard you at conferences and on interviews, talk the talk so many times. When it came time for you to stand up and walk the walk ,you fell flat on your face.
Now stand the hell up. Pull it together, take all this B.S. information that you get from the total B.S. “informants”, and throw it away. Talk to some people who really and truly *are* in the thick of things, that are actually fighting and working right now. Not some friend of a friend of a friend with information — that’s horsecrap and you know it. I know who most of your informants are. They’re ass clowns.
And please, David, tell your fan base that ‘Anonymous’ with your interview with Kerry, to at least go public and be honest and let the people know that he is a mutual friend and no, he is not in a spaceship X-kilometers out in deep space, that he’s down on terra firma. I mean come on, David. You’ve got a chance, David, You’ve been handed this opportunity. Do something good with it.
And let me be plain. The timing of your death threat has not escaped me, nor will my continued clogging along about Richard C. Hoagland. And I also must say I am very very ashamed and saddened by everyone involved in this dog and pony show. And I do mean everyone.
And during this entire dog and pony show of the past several days that we are writing about right now, someone tried to kill Miranda in the now, in the moment, in the physical. Again, this is what we deal with. We shrug it off and move on — it’s the way our lives are. Count yourself lucky, count yourself blessed.
Ladies and gentlemen, everyone who has read this, please understand where I am coming from. I am rude, I am crude, I am socially unacceptable in most circles. I prefer it that way. I have lived, I have loved, I have been tortured, and I have died and I have come back. I am here to do a job. That job is to walk the grey line, to try to keep the balance between the light and the dark until the final days.
There are good and bad in both the light and the dark. I have run with both companies. I have fought with both sides. It was necessary for me so I would understand both the light and the dark. I did not write this to be condescending, hateful, nasty, butt-kicking to David Wilcock. That’s not my intent. I honestly am above that, but is difficult for someone like me, who lives every moment of their life with the knowledge that that moment could be their last.
So it is difficult for me to feel all this compassion for David Wilcock in this incident concerning his so-called death threat. Myself and my group are battle-worn, battle-hardened, and battle-scarred, and all we want to do is go home. We ain’t here to make a lot of money. We ain’t here for fame and fortune. We ain’t here to stand in front of thousands at conferences and millions on TV with smiles on our faces. We’re here to do battle for each and every human walking the face of this planet. Like us or not, love us or not, it matters not. We have been sent here to fight and die for you. At least respect us. Hail the Greywalkers. Until the end.
Now to you, David, and everyone out there who reads this: Friendship for Miranda and I is a bond. If you wish to know how far we take that bond, and how low into hell I will travel to pull someone out, talk to Bill Ryan. He’ll tell you. If you are someone who I fight with, I work with, and I believe in, and if you are under my protection, I will always do the same thing. But the number of people who have that honor from me, you can count on the fingers of one hand.
David, you have a chance here — an opening. And so do we. This is a chance that you are probably not going to take, but nonetheless I am honor-bound to extend this invitation to you by my superiors and by my code. If you are willing to work with us and to uphold the same cause that we do, with honor and a true, sincere desire to help people, we would love to work together with you and we will extend all our support and protection to you. Like I said, I doubt very much you will take this, but if you choose to do so we will honor that decision. If not, then that’s okay, too.
To finally end this post, Miranda honey, I’m coming home. Right now I’m tired, I’m cold, I’m hungry, I need a shower, food, and alcohol. Ian, we will be seeing you soon. We’re coming home.
END OF QUOTED TEXT FROM DUNCAN'S BLOG
You know Duncan, you are insulting me here. Interesting how an act of love and concern on the part of me (it was MY SHOW) and no it was not a dog and pony show… and the love and concern on the part of Anonymous gets twisted… by you into something it was not. Yes we went live with it… and David is not you. He has not been necessarily beaten and tortured and given several alters. He’s not a hardened super soldier. But he reacted honestly to a real threat. The other people you are insulting here is Anonymous (who you know and should respect) and the original contact/friend who told David about the threats from 2 individuals who called that person.
You also know that friend. And you are insulting him. Why? He’s also someone who deserves your respect.
The fact is, David and I are out there on the front lines right along with you and many others. So why are you and certain other people who will not be mentioned by name attacking us? Because he showed some emotion and fear. At least he was telling it like it is for him. No mask there. No alter covering the layers… You are attacking him and me For telling the truth. For revealing something going on at the time. That was live radio. Deal with it. It was real. And you of all people should know that.
If you wanted to counsel David like an older brother or father figure and tell him to suck it up I suggest an email to him would have been more of an act of love. In essence you wanted David to ‘act like a man’ stand up and fight back … well fine by why make it public? Why attack him at his most vulnerable in public? What are you aiming at?
I don’t know why “they” are winding you up… but you are off base here. I think you have your targets mixed up. Aiming at close friends and comrades in this struggle is hardly honorable.
I suggest you rethink your approach… or ask your alter to stand down. WE are not the enemy. AND WE ARE NOT A DOG AND PONY SHOW.
Two Key Paragraphs from the Keenan TRILLION DOLLAR Lawsuit: GOLD SAGA
Note: For those wondering just what was David Wilcock threatened over?
The key item of interest is the Book of Codes and seems to indicate that the Book of Codes and the Maklumat are the same thing.... Further, it explains that Dr. Soekanto has the originals. And it explains what the Book of Codes contains...
RE THE BOOK OF CODES (MAKLUMAT BOOK)
165. Dr. Soekanto has further agreed and has confirmed that he holds the "full secret
Book of Codes (Maklumat Book) and Ledgers and all Records of the Accounts as delivered" to
him and that, upon their request, he will "deliver or cause delivery of the originals of such books
for presentment to any court determined to have such jurisdiction" and "for any other purpose"
KEENAN may require or need the Books. KEENAN and others under his direction are
presently in custody of certified copies of said Book of Codes (Maklumat Book) and Ledgers
with the authorizations to use them when needed.
166. These Books and Ledgers define the information that is held in the Federal
Reserve screen system. They contain the secret code cyphers and data on legal decisions,
treaties and other arrangements. Upon information and belief, they provide information
pertaining to all the accounts and sub-accounts that contain the gold and other assets, as well as
information pertaining to the financial instruments issued against the gold. Further, they specify
and provide the factual information as to what is in the Global Accounts, such as who owns the
gold and the source of its ownership. The protection and security of these Books is, therefore, of
the utmost importance and central to the authentication and verification process.-- FROM Case 1:11-cv-08500-JFK Document 1 Filed 11/23/11 Page 79 of 114 (ACTUAL PAGE 75 per numbering on document
RE WHO OWNS THE BONDS - KEENAN'S ROLE
o. Deed of Authorization and Agreement from Dr. Edy Soekanto
163. In November 2011, KEENAN was issued a deed of Authorization and Agreement
(the "Agreement") from Dr. Seno Edy Soekanto, who has sworn to be the "legal heir of record as
stated in the last will and testament of the late President Soekamo of Indonesia and heir son of
the late Kiyai Hadji Djawahir, as well as the legal holder of the Family Heritance Guarantee, as
attached to all the gold deposits as ordered by President Soekamo between 1948 and 1968 when
he was granted such Heritance Guarantee as C'payment for his services to the World." See
164. Dr. Soekanto swears that President Soekarno had designated to him the
responsibility to collect all those funds known as the Family Heritance Guarantee and the
accumulated interest thereon and that he has "been acknowledged by depository bank, as
evidenced by the bank instruments, books, record and ledgers and codes in his possession,
as the sole recognized heir to" the aforesaid fortune. Further, under such Agreement,
on account of his "severe and long term chronic illness," he granted to KEENAN the
authority to act as one of his Attorneys in Fact "to act jointly and/or severably
and to undertake all means and methods to recover the funds owing to me and the People of Indonesia."
Preliminary summary and comments: The above are excerpts from the Keenan Lawsuit. As the lawsuit details the funds have been stolen by a host of devious players... Not the least of which is Leo Zagami... who was instrumental in this clearly preplanned and orchestrated scheme. It's actually fascinating reading.
What is clear is that the bonds were stolen from Keenan and the Dragon Family and that the group of characters involved in what is in essence a sting operation to steal the funds and force Keenan to enter into a trading program in secret without the knowledge of the Dragon Family....
However, it seems that the lawsuit itself is not enough to convict the United Nations, Davos Forum or certain individuals such as Berlusconi. Only releasing the information within the Book of Codes and related documents would have the impact on the financial system or cause members of governments to go down or to be charged, as far as I can see. The deception involved in perpetrating the farce behind the financial systems of the world is too vast. Clearly this is the beginning of the breakdown of the secrecy surrounding methods of operation, those involved and the massive Ponzi schemes that are used by the very rich to build 'projects' in 3rd world countries, run them into debt and then take control of their resources... all of it is wrapped into this story. Releasing the info in the Book of Codes is absolutely key... and at least according to this lawsuit that does not appear to be the intention. It is possible and even plausible that they will get some settlement on this lawsuit if only to prevent the release of anything to do with the Book of Codes.
I wager right now there are deals being offered and bargaining taking place madly behind the scenes in order to keep this case from ever seeing a courtroom and to keep the information cantained in the Book of Codes and Maklumat from ever seeing the light of day. It all depends what the real purpose is behind the lawsuit. Whether this was a ploy to raise the consciousness of the world as to how these people operate or whether simply cashing in their bonds and obtaining gold was the motivation remains to be seen.
Note: This is my take based on the available evidence and small amount of behind the scenes research I have been able to do... it could change as more information becomes available.
A 122-nation alliance is backing a lawsuit that could free the Earth from financial tyranny. This investigation reveals who the perpetrators are and what we can do to solve the problem.
[PLEASE NOTE: This article will be undergoing dynamic updates throughout the weekend. Please LINK to it but do not COPY and MIRROR it until Monday. I highly recommend reloading every 15 minutes to catch small but relevant updates.] (edit voor zekerheid doek ut wel)
JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME
2012 has begun as a year of rampant paranoia and hopelessness on the Internet and throughout mainstream media.
The economy appears to be in a dire predicament -- ready to go over a cliff into an abyss few can even allow themselves to consider.
The Euro has been teetering on the brink of total collapse. A frantic bailout of the entire European Union, proposed by the Federal Reserve, has done very little to relieve the fears of the public.
On December 19th, 2011, Britain announced they will refuse to participate in this bailout -- showing how tense and uncertain the situation really is.
Simultaneously, very aggressive and blatant moves are being made to start World War III in the Middle East -- with imminent, ever-increasing threats from Israel and the United States to attack Iran.
Since 9/11, Americans and much of the Western world have been led to believe that the biggest enemy they face is terrorism from Islamic extremists. Nonetheless, there is now overwhelming, undeniable evidence that the true enemy... is within.
You are about to read a comprehensive investigation summarizing all the best information I have gathered about the true nature of this crisis since I became directly aware of it in 1992.
Very few people are aware that a massive 122-nation coalition has formed to solve the problem -- just in the nick of time – and they are backing a legal, public solution to end Financial Tyranny.
A TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT
A trillion-dollar lawsuit was filed as of November 23, 2011 -- and the resulting investigation will provide a rock-solid legal framework to reveal the full nature of the problems we face... and arrest those responsible:
Bear in mind that the evidence backing this lawsuit, if made public, will completely expose what has been going on at the highest levels -- by the people themselves, speaking in their own words.
This would be the most dramatic public expose' of the group responsible for this Financial Tyranny since the early 1800s -- as you will see.
Our initial announcement and confirmation of this lawsuit has already received over 650,000 hits, 34,000 Facebook Likes and 1000 written comments as we publish this final, completed investigation.
This initial announcement also earned me a very serious warning -- from two different insiders working at high levels of government -- that I needed to publish the entire investigation as quickly as possible, or my life could be in imminent danger.
The conspirators are desperate to stop the bleeding and save themselves from prosecution. Threats, bribery, blackmail, torture and murder are their standard tools of the trade.
As you will see, on December 31st, David Hutlzer publicly conveyed vital information to me for this case, acting directly on behalf of Benjamin Fulford -- the former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine, and a leading representative of this international alliance.
Ben had David direct me to the "Unwanted Publicity Intelligence" website, which contains extremely sensitive documents. I was astonished when I reviewed this website, considering that I was told it is very dangerous to publish pictures of the Federal Reserve bonds.
A week later, on January 6th, David and his eight-year-old son Mackie burned to death in their home. Hardly anything recognizable was left. Accelerants were found outside and arson has not been ruled out.